Grouping pages without affecting the url
Cameron Cox 8 years ago • updated by Cameron Cox 8 years ago • 8
Grouping pages without affecting the url. Simply being able to organize pages within the CMS in folders for better organization and speed/ease of finding pages.
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It sounds like the root of the problem is finding pages within the admin, right? We have had that same concern with large sites that are well organized in parent/child paths. Perhaps a way to easily filter/search pages in the admin would be a better fix for a wider audience. What do you think?
We are still considering this one but haven't come up with a good solution that fits in with other use cases. To help out out a little bit can you share some SEO reasons why you are keeping your URLs flat instead of "nesting" pages under a parent page? Can you please share some posts from some prominent blogs that back this up?
These are just a few quick highlights from a brief discussion with a few people. Our main SEO guy is out right now, but I will ask him to weigh in on this and provide more facts when he gets back (most likely next week sometime).
- Shorter URL's are generally better. Excerpt from a moz.com blog:
- Page folders often limit page exposure to search engines (http://www.webconfs.com/seo-sub-domains-or-directories-article-65.php). This is an issue, because our service landing pages (like a Residential Service) is generally a simple page with basic information and the meat of the information is on the individual service page. So for instance, Bed Bug Control is generally a very important page, but if nested under Residential Services it possible the search engine would not crawl deep enough to pull that page into search results. Google generally limits the
number of search results per domain to 2 or 3, so if you have more
pages that are relevant, they might not show in the main search
- Overall user experience. URL structures that do not contain folders are easier to remember and share.
"Shorter URLs are, generally speaking, preferable. You don't need to take this to the extreme, and if your URL is already less than 50-60 characters, don't worry about it at all. But if you have URLs pushing 100+ characters, there's probably an opportunity to rewrite them and gain value."
One thought I had, and maybe this is out of the realm of possibility, is if you are concerned that changing the pages layout in the CMS would confuse other users, maybe there could be an option under Site Settings to turn on/off page nesting in the url. Then the layout and functionality of the current page manager could stay exactly the same, and the only change that would be made is if the setting is enabled the url would not include folders. Does that make sense? Probably not as simple of a fix as it sounded in my head, but just a thought. Thanks!
Thank you for the updated information. We've got a few ideas that we're kicking around that include:
View by Tag - add support for tagging pages. This would be similar to tagging blog posts. Tags could then be used within the site to view by related pages. You would then also be able to view pages in the administration by tags. This one accomplishes more than what you're requesting and might be useful to others.
View pages by navigation - View the pages based on the navigation menus that they show in. Sort of like viewing all navigation menus on one page in a collapsable tree format. Pages that aren't in a navigation menu would show at the bottom in a "No Navigation Menu" section.
View pages by group - this would add support for grouping pages and is possibly the closest to what you're requesting. I'm just not sure how many other people would use this as it's limited to only changing the display in the administration and serves no other function.
We also want to add some Search functionality to the pages to make it easier to find pages by name, url, page title and perhaps some other content.
Let me know what you think of those options and if one or more would possibly meet your needs.
"View pages by group - this would add support for grouping pages and is possibly the closest to what you're requesting. I'm just not sure how many other people would use this as it's limited to only changing the display in the administration and serves no other function."
Although, the others do have advantages as well. It would be incredible if we could pair "View pages by group" and the "Search" feature!